an evolving faith .
does the president believe he has a divine mandate?
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/121/story_12112.html
Once again, the over-simplified responce from the left (aka Bush Haters).
"This war is about oil"
I would have thought that by now even the most liberal peaceniks would have used some logical reasoning. I have been proven wrong once again.
Edited by - Texas Apostate on 11 February 2003 18:56:48
yep,.
it boggles my mind, so many here would rather believe saddam hussein than their own government.
so many here seem certain the bush administration is lying, but trust hussein to tell the truth.
:Me think Bush and his government want more than just get rid of Saddam... I don't trust Bush,
Let me guess... He wants the oil.
do you have faith in god?
a simple test... read judges 20-21. it's alot of reading... i ask again, "do you have faith in god?
ask yourself who could phineas represent today .
I actually came in looking for a valid comeback from our friend mind, but instead all I got was his mindLESS rantings. Should have know better
i cant say that im a fan of affirmative action but bushs comments and actions against the u of m kind of burns me.
again, while i dont believe in affirmative action, i have to admit that it does help the "little guy.
" where i work there is another engineer who got a free ride through college because he received a hispanic scholarship while i spent 10 years paying back my student loans.
I used to try and come into threads like these and argue my position on why I believe that Bush is a good President in my opinion, and while I agree with most of political his views there are some I don't agree with. I agree with him on affirmative action. Race based preferential treatment is IMHO not good. I am a first generation Mexican-American. I grew up in a neighborhood that was 95% mexican and poor. My parents had instilled in me to always excel in whatever I was doing. During my elementary school years my paintings won 1st place several times in city competition. I had also demostrated strong mathematical, english and science skills. I had also excelled in sports. I was even asked to compete in a school district marathon. The school was to sent only two representatives from each school year. I got to be one. By the time I reached Junior High I was in advanced honors classes. There was only 1 other hispanic in these classes. I was also continually asked by my P.E. coach to join the football team and track team. This time my parents did not want me to join (They were beginning to became hardcore witnesses by this time). Fast forward to my last two years at high school. I was no longer in advanced classes (I didn't see a reason to, JW's restricted college). Although I was in regular classes, my teachers noticed that the school work seemed easy to me. I still managed to graduate with a pretty good GPA. If I could I would have been accepted at pretty much any state college just because my grades where pretty good for a "Hispanic". I didn't thought. Fast forward 3 years. I had a sucky job, and was living at home with Mom and Dad. I got tired of my measly check. I got tired of my lifestyle. I sucked it up, and enrolled in tech school. I took out loans with the help of my parents. I decided that I was going to give it my best. I graduated top of the class. Fast forward to 2003. I have great job, and make good money. My wife also has a good job, and makes good money. She is also Hispanic. We just recently purchased a new home in a great side of town, with enough room for our daughter to run around. Both of us have gotten to where we are at without preferential treatment or a government hand out. She is also someone who excelled in school. She even graduated top 5 percent of her high school. We both do not believe in race based preferential treatment. I do agree on talent preferential treatment. If you are good at something, and the school is looking for those talents so be it. I do not believe that just because you are hispanic, black or green you should be able to have a leg up over an anglo. As far as Tax break for the "rich". From what I understand, the government considers those who make more than $120,000/yr "rich". My wife and I are pretty close to that mark for this year, and I by no means consider myself "rich". Also from what I understand, the top 20% percent wage earners (120,000/yr?) pay for over 50% of the taxes in America. Believe me, I have compared my taxes for the last 5 years, and the more you make, the more taxes you pay.
That's my take
TA
Edited by - Texas Apostate on 23 January 2003 13:48:45
these are the number of publishers in the u.s. 9excluding alaska and hawaii) for every month of the 2000, 2001, and 2002 service year.
just take a look at the number of publishers in may of 2001 compare to that same month of 2002. a whopper!
an increade of 4%!.
Living In my little world, I think not. I see that Cult for what it is. I do not defent it. I do not make excuses for it. I only feel sorry for the people who are honestly looking for some connection with ghod, and get taken advantage of by the Idiots who prefess to speak for Jehovar. Followers of Followers is all they are. Like I said YOU are a Self-Righteous IDIOT. Stating "Oh by the way I am not an apostate". What F@#$KIN arrogance.
Oh and since you say you are a believer, what the hell do you mean by that. What do you believe? That they have ghod's approval? That they speak for ghod"? That they are ghod's organization on earth?
You are not a follower of the religion, but you put up some stats that what, prove that their numbers are growing? And let me guess, this proves that they have jehovar blessing.
You have investigated those accusations, and you are still a believer, and defender of the Watchtower CULT. You are either sincerely trying to find your way out of this CULT, or you are to dumb to figure out that the Jehovah's Witless is a destructive CULT.
Texas Apostate of the Dirty South Apostasy ring.
Edited to add "What F@#$KIN arrogance"
Edited by - Texas Apostate on 22 January 2003 18:14:51
i would like to hear some of the strangest or most ridiculous thing you got in trouble with the elders for.
here is mine.. back in the early 70's i was married at the age of 18, typical witness thing to do.
my husband who was 6 years older than i ruled me like a overly strict father.
Well grew up going to a spanish congo in H-town Texas during the 80's & 90's. Now let me what where the stragest things is got called to the back room for, humm...
1. For wearing Stacey Adams shoes. (patend leather, used commonly by "Lowriders")
2. For wearing pleated pants.
3. For wearing pants that tappered down. (I never liked straight pants, which were the prefered pant style to wear)
4. For wearing dress pants with cuffs on the bottom. (Unacceptable during this time. Last time I went to the meetings I saw some MS's wearing some. I guess they are acceptable now)
5. For wearing the (don't laugh) skinny ties.
6. For having long hair. (My hair was just touching the top of my collar)
7. For having short hair. (That was in at the time)
8. For letting my mustache, and that part of the beard that grows under your bottom lip, grow out at the same time.
9. For getting a part time job. (Even though my dad suggested it)
10. For not getting a 4 door car as my first car.
11. For getting a loud stereo system in my car.
12. Oh and last but not least, for having a bumper sticker on my car that said "Just Do It".
You know that was the slogan used my Nike at the time. The last one won a "Special Needs" talk from the PO, in regards to "the brothers need to watch what bumper stickers to put on their cars." I still remember the example he used it went something like "Some people go as far put bumper stickers that may invite violence such as JUST DO IT, as it come on I dare you to do something to me".
TA
these are the number of publishers in the u.s. 9excluding alaska and hawaii) for every month of the 2000, 2001, and 2002 service year.
just take a look at the number of publishers in may of 2001 compare to that same month of 2002. a whopper!
an increade of 4%!.
:I'm new here, but would like to say that I'm not an apostate, and that i do favor their work.
It's good to know that you are not an apostate ("Oh my ghod that is sure a bad label ). Let me be the first to call you an inconsiderate IDIOT. Do you even know what the BIBLICAL definition of an apostate is? What are you trying to prove with YOUR lame statistics (4 percent increase my ass)? And as far as favoring there work. I am glad that you favor a religion that:
1. Protects pedophiles
2. Breaks up families
3. Kills people in the name of Jehovar (NoBlood Transfussion)
4. Has a history of being a False Prophet
5. Lies to it's members.
"I am not an apostate" HA! You and your self rightness CULT religion can go to hell.
TA Proud to be a TEXAS APOSTATE according to the Watchtower Society.
what are some of the fashion trends you've seen or worn at the hall?
any interesting stories to share?.
some i remember off the top of my head are tie bars, tie clips, polyester suits, wide ties... we used to have brothers who would "compete" with designer cologne like polo, etc.. the memorial was always a fashion show.. yellowlab
Man I wish the girls in my Kingdumb hall would have dressed like that.
hey boys & girls!
i just had an interview with a reporter that wants to do an article in the houston chronicle on our ex-jw meet up group www.exjw.meetup.com ==== she asked me some questions about my experience & the group & said she wants to do an article about us and take some photos at our next meet - up.
i sure hope we have a good turn out hey houston - i mean u!!!!!!
You can count on me going to the next one then. Got to represent the Texas Apostasy Commitee.
TA
warning: this post may contain some venting.
the last time i wrote about myself, half of the people who responded wanted my head on a stick.
so, if you didnt like my last post or if dont want read about someone elses problems, leave immediately!
From one Houstonian to another, maybe I can give you some encouragement. Of coarse like most of us on the forum I didn't plan for college after high school. No plan for the future. All I had was my girlfriend (wordly ) at the time, and a job selling pagers at her father's friends shop. I thought I had it made. My own apartment, new truck, and even my own cell phone (This was '93 people). Life was pretty good. I was even Df'd around this time. I didn't care though. Then two years later everything falls apart. I got fired (I was skimming some money from the profits). Oh well, I at least have my girl. Well, of coarse her dad found out about what I was doing, and pretty much after that my girlfriend dumped me, and to top it off, it was for somebody I thought was a friend. Damn!. Even to this day, If I ever see that sorry son of a b@#ch, I am going to tear his little short...err ah, back to the story. I was a wreck. Oh about 2 months after all this happened, I loose my apartment. Life was sucking. I had to beg my parents to shack me up for a while. I started taking stupid jobs. I peddled stupid toys (pyramid scam) on the street. Which by the way I was pretty good at with my witness background . Then I took some jobs at equipment rental places. One day I finally got tired of my life, and said enough is enough. I bit the bullet, asked my dad to co-sign for me to go to tech school. I took drafting classes in high school, and had always been pretty artistic. Well, asking my dad for the co-sign was not easy. He was still a dub at the time. He finally caved in, signed the loans, and I graduated from tech school in May '96. 7 years later I am still in my profession.
My advise, sit down with yourself. Ask yourself what your talents, and interest are. Ask yourself, what do you want out of life? Write down your thoughts and your goals. Make sacrifices. Educate yourself. It is all worth it in the end. Remember that this is your life. You make what ever you want out of it. It could be your paradise, or your hell.
Just my 2,
GF
P.S. Welcome back to Houston. Check the meet-up for H-town. There are about 20 registered.
